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That's exactly why I believe it is meant to be a replacement to the Chronomat Evo, and not a complementary product. I'm not sure why Breitling keeps producing the Chronomat Evo though...

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Ingenieur - Speedmaster - Submariner

That would be a huge mistake. In my opinion, the B01 doesn't even come close to the Evo in terms of styling.

Breitling is not going to get rid of one of it's biggest sellers (Chronomat).

The B01 movement was designed to be capable of supporting a couple of different sub dial layouts so B01 variants will inevitably find their way elsewhere - Navitimer and Bentley being the most likely options.

I don't buy the argument that there will be in house variants of the Aeromarine range anytime soon - that's Breitling's value part of the market so it doesn't make sense to move them out of reach of a large part of their target market - especially having invested so much time and effort into developing that market in recent years.

If there is a non chrono movement coming soon (which I don't believe) then it will either be a Cockpit (or possibly a Cockpit replacement), or a new watch. The recent trend for serious diver watches - SDDS, PloProf, Five Hundred Fathoms, etc has demonstrated that there is a market there for high end divers. Given what I have just said about the Aeromarine range, I would expect that to go into the Professional range. However, just to repear, I don't believe that a non chrono is coming just yet.

Roff any way of confirming if this movements will be moving into the Bentleys? i wonder if they do decide to use the full in house movement in the Bentleys how much the price will go up. or do you think that it would stay the same.

Another thing....the new B01 movement is it superior in anyway to what they currently use? or is it more of a prestige thing for them to claim design over the movement?

The "evo" designation was dropped a couple of years ago. Its just called the Chronomat now. There is the Chronomat and the Chronomat B01. As Roff said, the regular Chronomat is the best selling model in the entire lineup, so I cant imagine that theyd just drop it.

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-RJ

We'll have to wait for announcements to see which models it goes in next, but I guarantee that in house variants will command a premium price.

In terms of movement 'superiority', it's been discussed a few times. The ability to use quick set date at any point is nice, but not revolutionary, the 70 hour power reserve is a step up compared to the rest of Breitlings and the auto centering reset hammers is a nice, if somewhat geekish touch. Overall thought the movement is evolutionary rather than revolutionary.

wow 70hr reserve??? thats a significant increase. i wonder what kind of price increase we will see? I wonder if all future lings will be done with an in house movement?? if so this would/should significantly drop the price on onlder and used models. The reason i am concerned is that i just ordered a motors t. now i am wondering if i should hold off and wait for the announcements.

Breitling claims capacity to produce 50,000 movements per year. Compare that to 2008 production numbers of 290,000 and you can clearly see that not all Breitlings will have in house movements any time soon.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a continuing trend of new variants of existing models and completely new models getting the in house movements to try and prevent damaging sales on other models - hence why the Chronomat B01 is completely different to the regular Chronomat. That also allows Breitling to avoid dropping prices on existing models.

I think that the the significant premium of te inhouse movement also keeps the older models price safe. If the B01 and Chronomat would look the same, with their price difference the Chronomats used price shouldn´t be effected.

One intresting thought came to mind. Breightling claims they can produce 50000 inhouse movements per year. For sure they haven´t sold 50000 B01:s. They have to be over anxious to release new models to to use that capacity. As the B01 is a modular construction, it will probably be the base for most of their future watches in all sorts of fun variants.

...and as they can´t buy ETA ebouches anymore, where will the rest 240000 movements come from???

Same place that a lot of them have come from for the couple of years, 3rd party parts suppliers, in house machine shops, etc. You don't need to go to Swatch for pieces that lost trademark protection decades ago.

Additionally, in the current economy I very much doubt that the supply of ebauches to 3rd parties has decliend too significantly just yet.

And there are also rumours/stories etc that Breitling actually now make their own parts to the pattern of the various ETA movements they've historically used as the basis for their "B" calibres. As Roff said, there are no trademark restrictions on the designs of the Valjoux 7750 and the ETA 2824, etc.

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Driver8

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so if i am following this thing correctly the B01 chronomat is basically the updated chronomat Evo? what is msrp on each watch just curious?

MSRP on a B01 with a bracelet is $7600.

-Craig

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Chronomat 01- Sierra Silver/Steel
Navitimer 01- Limited Edition #1337/2000

Any idea what the Chrono Evo msrp is/was? just wanted to get an idea of % markup.

This should answer all your questions about pricing. The MSRP on a Chronomat Evo with a Pilot bracelet in 2009 was $5840. The B01 is $1760 more.

http://www.breitlingsource.com/download ... 6-2009.pdf

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Chronomat 01- Sierra Silver/Steel
Navitimer 01- Limited Edition #1337/2000