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Cant wait for Drivers response

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"It's not how it's written it's how it's read"

Missing my point here. The warranty card and the COSC certificate that come with the watch when it is manufactured have the serial number of the watch printed on them, ergo, a blank warranty card and COSC are fakes and useless to the buyer.......................

I think we are saying the same thing... The papers are worthless. This example shows how you can make a very authentic looking set of paperwork. There is no way thees papers left the factory blank.

If a buyer believes that the presence of a box and paperwork somehow makes the transaction safer it does not.

Take 1 decent knock off and add a duplicated set of papers, fill in the blanks... $$$$$$$$$$

That's why I focus on the watch.. It's much harder to fake than the paperwork. And of course the seller needs to be good. But even if the seller is good they may not be aware that they have a fake.


I think that many people that would see a watch with all this stuff would believe that it's legit.

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This is a Rochefoucauld, the thinnest water-resistant watch in the world. Singularly unique, sculptured in design,hand-crafted in Switzerland.
In Philadelphia it's worth Fifty bucks.

You're worse than my wife...............I give up. Have a nice evening.

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Hi All !

When one purchases a pre-owned watch from Tourneau they do not provide you with any of the original paraphernalia i.e box & paper work.
However, they do provide you with their own box & their version of paper work. While it is very nice to own the original box & papers for any given watch - what really happens to it ? - it gets place in some drawer or some other place and never really looked at again.

Henceforth, I have become a believer that it is a better value to buy pre-owned. The only difference is you don't get all of the original personal effects that come with the watch. Still the same watch tho!!! As someone else stated in this thread what is important is the watch not the box or the papers. And yes my very first Breitling I bought brand new over a decade ago and I still own it and love it very much - actually I just happen to be wearing it as of this writing - lol !

Best Regards,

Enezdez

P.S - I also feel that buying a brand new automobile is a waste of money too!

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I'm going to rise above it Taffy! (If only because it's still a source of embarrassment to me!)

I won't relay the tale again, but suffice to say I used to be firmly in the same camp that MartC's post is in (i.e that "nobody loses papers")............ until it happened to me! Suffice to say I'm a little more tolerant about folks misplacing papers than I once was!

Oh and thanks to Roff for bringing that one up..... AGAIN!

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Driver8

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Actually, I think the box is real, isn't it? I thought the fakes were wood, not bakelight, and had thicker sides (if you look at the auction photos, they have a pic of the box opened). The warranty and chronometre certificates look fake, though. Seems like a mishmash. (Wow...my spellchecker knows "mishmash")

I agree with Roff in that everything has a price. I would pay less for the same watch if it lacked papers and the box. However, as we see on this thread, photos of papers and box do not really mean that it is real...it's just one of many things to consider. Ideally I want good pictures, papers, box, a seller with an established rep at whatever venue the ad is posted, and a relatively secure payment method. If any one of these are lacking, I demand more from the others to make up the difference (e.g. really good pics, a more secure payment method like PayPal+Ebay or Escrow.com). It's really the sum total that is important. Everything should add up.

--Mofongo

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Some of the paperwork looks real..

A fake watch can only have fake paperwork. No one would put fake paperwork with a real watch.

The problem is you can just buy the "real" paperwork and alter it.

This makes me sick....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 1067wt_941



To me this is why the paperwork is useless. It's actually much easier to duplicate than the watch. If you add this to a very detailed fake you can make a very convincing sale.

Some one is going to buy this crap. It has only 1 use.

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This is a Rochefoucauld, the thinnest water-resistant watch in the world. Singularly unique, sculptured in design,hand-crafted in Switzerland.
In Philadelphia it's worth Fifty bucks.

it doesnt make any sense buying cosc that doesnt match your watch serial lol but for a fake watch seller it makes all the sense in the world

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I recently bought a Chrono Superocean. The Papers seem to match and my AD didn't question the watch during strap replacement. I guess its nice if your looking to re-sell.