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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:58 pm 
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Hello,
I just purchased an old Navitimer a13019 and I have some doubts about hands.
Which is between these the correct hand set?
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The first picture has the correct original hands for that model, before the date font was revised.
After the date font change the hands became the sword shape as more commonly seen on Old Navitimers, although I think they should be tinted on a white or silver dial for contrast. So in the middle picture, it is possible that it was serviced and the hands replaced with whatever was available.
The more I look at picture 3, the more I think it is incorrect.



If you go to http://www.Lesmala.net you can see many vintage variations of the model

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Thank you so much.
But also first and third sets are different in shape.
Am I wrong?


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Sorry I have edited what I said. I'm using my phone so couldn't see.
The third picture hands looks slightly dubious. Although the large chrono hand is correct

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The important is the first watch is ok becouse is mine :)


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Welcome aboard.
Original hands for this model are on photo 3.


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More confused, anyone more?


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The pics I've seen agree with pics 1 and 2. Such as on Lesmala
Where is your source for picture 3?

Is it possible that all of the various hands are original during certain batches? In the same way that Rolex submariner dials varied even with the same case designation.

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Pic 3 is from a well known italian jewelry.
THank for the help


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My question was to bnewbie

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1952 wrote:
My question was to bnewbie


Hmm, given bnewbie's reputation and past knowledge, my money is on him ;-)

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Where is your source for picture 3?

1991 catalog.


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The catalog shows both variations of hands!

Straight sided on steel and sword shape on the gold model

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Didn't expect that!
My mistake, I instantly looked on gold model, because on it hands look sharper.
How do you explain sword shape on SS watch (photo 3) and it can be seen that they are not from gold model?
1952 wrote:
Is it possible that all of the various hands are original during certain batches? In the same way that Rolex submariner dials varied even with the same case designation.

Most probably that is the answer.
It happened with older Chronomat and SO (17360) dials also.


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