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 Post subject: Re: value of breitling
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:59 am 
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I don't see much point in buying a new luxury watch for its resale value myself. The higher price point of a Rolex or a Patek defeats the whole savings potential. You lose less in percentage, but the buy price being A LOT higher you lose more money. For example a depreciation of 40% of 11K (Rolex Deepsea) is much more than 60% of 4K (Breitling Seawolf). I'd buy a Patek or a Rolex for other reasons.

Buying second hand is a different kettle of fish of course. You could easily breakeven, or make a small profit if you're lucky.

If you buy new, do it within your budget (real budget or psychological budget), relax about the money (I know it's hard these days) and enjoy it. You only live once. Don't sell unless you don't like it anymore or you're strapped for cash. Otherwise you'll lose a lot and might even regret having sold it, to the point that you could even try and buy the same watch again! If it helps, think about it as a spending which will be recouped or amortised during your lifetime. What is 6K over 30 years? That's 200 dollars a year or 16.7 dollars a month not taking into account interest rates and inflation.

Basically, if you buy new then stick to your guns and forget about resale value.

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However, I maintain that if you have a Breitling that goes onto become a classic, and if you wait long enough, you might get your money back + Inflation in years to come.



You might (stress might) be able to make that argument for one or two vintage pieces, although I highly doubt it when total cost of ownership is considered. You sure as heck can't make that claim for a Super Avenger.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:16 pm 
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wessa wrote:
Why do we keep going back to return on investment or resale values with reference to watches?


Much like dogs return to their vomit, I'd reckon. ;)


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Why do we keep going back to return on investment or resale values with reference to watches?


Much like dogs return to their vomit, I'd reckon. ;)


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Theres a lot going on in this one and on several levels. The short answer is that we are all human.

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P51 wrote:
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However, I maintain that if you have a Breitling that goes onto become a classic, and if you wait long enough, you might get your money back + Inflation in years to come.



You might (stress might) be able to make that argument for one or two vintage pieces, although I highly doubt it when total cost of ownership is considered. You sure as heck can't make that claim for a Super Avenger.


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Oh I stopped trying to understand your logic a long time ago.

Seriously, what on earth does an SA have to offer that will make it a future classic in the line up of Breitlings, let alone in the greater watch market as a whole. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, but it isn't rare, it's too large for many people, it uses a movement that is used by hundreds of different watches, etc. It has zero chance of standing out against many other of Breitling's offerings, let alone other manufacturers.

As has been said no watch should be bought as an investment but if you had to put money on a Breitling to be a classic you would be looking at the Chronomat 01, the Navitimer 01 or similar.


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Oh I stopped trying to understand your logic a long time ago.

Seriously, what on earth does an SA have to offer that will make it a future classic in the line up of Breitlings, let alone in the greater watch market as a whole. There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, but it isn't rare, it's too large for many people, it uses a movement that is used by hundreds of different watches, etc. It has zero chance of standing out against many other of Breitling's offerings, let alone other manufacturers.

As has been said no watch should be bought as an investment but if you had to put money on a Breitling to be a classic you would be looking at the Chronomat 01, the Navitimer 01 or similar.


Don't give up now.

If you had read my posts correctly, I don't think I actually said the SA would become or is a classic. But I am sure there are many SA owners here who are grateful you have put their watch choice into perspective for them.

Truth is, neither you nor I are in a position to suggest what might be a highly sort after watch in the future, classic or not. We have our own view and our own experiences and knowledge, but it’s not always possible to predict what might be. Couple this with the concurrence of our peers as testimony of our belief, and we can’t be wrong. Right! We tend to err on predictions and play it safe.

The watch buying public are fickle, and we both know that what might constitute a great watch may or may not be shared with those looking for a special time piece. Whatever our view of a particular model is, it’s only our view. So, sometimes you have to take the view of others.

Some watches go onto greatness because of their inherent qualities, others because they made an entrance at the right time. Some have history on their side, even though they are not particularly ground breaking. My point was, owning a Breitling is a pretty good start to protecting your investment, to some degree. Even if it’s not to the stellar returns of other brands, they are certainly sort after watches.

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